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6f61bd97-961f-420f-9c8d-36147952a501Thomas Force Palmer 1787-1865

I found a hand-written “history” of the Palmer clan in my file cabinet that I have reserved solely for genealogy. This is where I stuffed everything my father sent me: all my mother’s notes on her side of the family, and anything my dad had on his side of the family. My father was the grandson of John and Irene Wilcox. Joseph Snow Palmer was my great-great-great grandfather.

I have not researched the hand-written history, but I am going to transcribe it below (verbatim). It was written in pencil on faded note-paper, but is still legible. I’d like to capture it before it fades completely.

Here goes:

Coat of Arms was granted to Ralph Palmer in 14 century and brought (?) to the coming of the clan to America.

Ralph Palmer was of great note in the South of England and resided at Sussex. Sir Edward who was a descendant in the 8th generation was our ancestor. he (sic) married a daughter of Sir Richard Clement. She had three sons (think of it3) (sic) triplets and they were born on three successive Sundays, the first one on Palm Sunday*. Some Record (see coat of arms)**

The first of Palmers of our line in America: William. He came from Sommersetshire, England in 1621 on the good ship Fortune. He had a son, William. The second Wm. was a lieutenant under Capt. Miles Standish and has been designated as Lieutenant William Palmer. he was a man of large affairs and held many positions of trust. He married Judith Feake and had five sons & one daughter. One of his sons Ephraim married Sarah Messenger & they had seven children. One of whom was John, who married Sarah Close and had five children, one being Justus who married Amy Lockwood and had six children, all sons & the third of these was Ephraim our Revolutionary ancestor.

He was born in 1760, married Margaret Force in 1786 and had 11 children, seven sons and four daughters. The eldest of these was Thomas Force Palmer born in 1787. Married Rebecca Snow 1813 and then had six children, four girls & 2 boys.

Joseph Snow Palmer, b. 1819

*I’m trying to verify that story. Sounds like a tall tale: giving birth to triplets, but each one a week apart, beginning on Palm Sunday?? I can verify the boys were triplets, but not the story. That link also hints at the tragic death of my ancestor, Sir Thomas Palmer. (Cause of death: beheaded after the Lady Jane Grey conspiracy.) That bears a lot more research!


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More Ancestry Mysteries

Well, maybe not so much mysteries as I have names that go with tonight’s photo.


The sandal is my own size 7 for size comparison. It was the only thing handy that I thought could give perspective.

For years I was baffled by the existence of the wooden shoes. They came in a box from my dad with a bunch of other stuff, most of which I don’t remember now. He gave no explanation for the wooden shoes: who did they belong to and why were they in our family’s possession?

At that time, I didn’t have the papers my dad later sent me. My family lines were tied to the British Isles, not mainland Europe. Wales, Scotland, Ireland, England.

When Dad sent me the paperwork he had that details his family lines all the way back to the first immigrants (there’s no research on the other side of The Pond that I know of and I haven’t pursued it), I discovered I have Dutch roots as well. There’s a VanVreedenburgh and a whole lot of VanEsselston/VanYsselston and Esselston/Ysselston relations who came to the Americas between 1634 and 1705. The Dutch eventually married into the English, and my Grandmother Kimmey came into the picture in 1874.

(The surname Kimmey has an interesting history on House of Names: it is one of the oldest English surnames, perhaps even outdating the Norman Conquest of 1066 AD. Kimmey is the oldest version of the surname.)

I digress. The point is: I discovered a branch of the family that was decidedly Dutch. Given the time of their immigration, they may have come over with Peter Stuyvesant or shortly thereafter. I found this link to be helpful: Dutch Immigration. The little wooden shoes possibly date back to that time.

Or they are some tourist memorabilia and have no relevance at all. I have no clue.


The leather baby shoes, however, came with a hint. Inside one of them is a little slip of card stock, written on both sides:

Aunt Mary Johnston’s

First Shoes

She was born Dec 2 – 1879

~~~~~~~Born 1775 Aug 12

Nathan Brown – her father


1775 – 75 yrs. old

Ancestry.com puts Nathan Brown’s birthday in 1791. I have found a lot of disparity between the written record I have that was handed down and the records of Ancestry.com. One has to be very careful on their website to not connect the wrong person to one’s Family Tree, otherwise I like their website.

Nathan Brown was my Great-Great-Great Grandfather on my mother’s father’s side. He was Grandfather to Newton Brown, a surveyor of the Wyoming Territory (second obit down in the link). I have a collection of letters from Newton Brown to my Great-Grandmother, Mary Melrose nee Brown, his little sister.

I suppose my next logical step would be to pay for the International version of Ancestry.com and start looking up the relations across The Pond. But first I have to get myself organized. Posting these items and talking about it online helps me start to focus. I lost my focus when my dad died.

Time to get back in the saddle.

Great Grandmother saved letters. Apparently she saved baby shoes as well.

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I just started playing with what will soon be my next addiction: Ancestry.com.

I’ve put it off for years, with the shoebox of geneaology that my mother amassed before the computer age. I feel guilty about it, too. My mom’s dream was to trace her family back as far as she could (she got hung up in Scotland. I think she was back into the 1500’s, maybe earlier). I inherited all her notes because I was deemed the one child most likely to follow up on the research.

My mom died in 1996 and the shoebox has languished under my bed for almost as long. I did buy some acid-free folders to put the info in, but I never transferred anything. I have several old letters my mom collected, land deeds, news clips, a scrap book and her stenographer’s pad with notes (all dated with date & military time each time she made a discovery).

No one has attempted to do the work on my dad’s family, to my knowledge. I know the basics: the English side and the Irish side, and that we are related to some guy who surveyed most of Wyoming. I also know that we go back to the American Revolution and the Mayflower on his side. I remember writing about that in a paper I did in the 6th or 7th grade on my family name and where it originated.

We go back to the American revolution on my mom’s side, too. And I’m somehow related to the anarchist, John Brown, of Harper’s Ferry fame. Not directly.

I know that on my mom’s side we helped run the Underground Railroad.

My dad’s side was not quite so generous & I have the postcards to prove it. (Some of them are really racist!)

My husband has been into the whole geneaology thing all along, slowly and deliberately putting together the Presley family history. Because of his research, we have a membership on Ancestry.com. Have had, for several years.

About a week ago, I finally went in and started a family tree on my dad’s side. (You’d think I would dig out the shoebox and go to town on my mom’s research!) But, no – I decided to start with the unresearched side.

Last night I sat and clicked on “hints” for two hours, delving into my father’s mother’s side of the family. I’m back to 1600’s and they are still in America. Well, except for the ones who emigrated to Canada & I can’t follow those hints because we need an upgrade to our membership to go International.  I’ll hold off on the upgrade for when I enter my mom’s research because I know she traced it back to Scotland.

I haven’t found any racy relatives (yet), but I did come across an amusing misspelling of my great-great grandmother Irene’s name: Green. GREEN? Was the census taker deef? How did “Irene” become “Green”?? Too funny. I’ve had to correct countless records on the spelling of Kimmey: they keep spelling it Kinney. Interestingly, there are TEN public accounts that are somehow related to me through the Kimmeys. Hmmm…

Wilcox hasn’t pulled one single hint. Not one. It’s a far more common name than Cusick or Kimmey, but I suspect because my great-grandfather was an only child who sired an only child, that I am the one who gets to do that research. But now I am addicted. It’s like finding pieces of a puzzle.

A very Anglo-Saxon puzzle at the moment, although someone in one of the related public profiles has a Chinese surname.

Stay tuned. I’m sure I’ll find some skeletons.

Still Life With Apples – Photo # 253/365

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